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Hey, I've just joined so thought I'd come say hi :) I'm Caitlin - I mostly juggle very basic balls and clubs, occasionally on fire, occasionally on skates. I'm one of the organisers of Bath UpChuck 2017 (which is happening in February and we're super excited!) and 'm pretty sure that's the next convention I'll be at since Chocfest is sadly very far away from me :'( Hopefully see some of you guys soon :D
Hi Caitlin, welcome to the Edge.
What sort of skates do you use? I'm an inliner myself, but I've never tried it while on fire.
Also #BathUpChuck2017 tag, you're it.
Caitlin Green - - Наверх #
Thanks :)
Ah nice :D I'm a derby skater, so I've got a set of quads. Unfortunately, I've not combined the fire juggling with the skating juggling, so that could be a fun 2017 goal :P
Juggling in advertisements
I've been talking with a non-juggler about juggling and how the image that juggling has is unrepresentative. She works in advertising, so I wanted to show her some adverts that include juggling, but can't for the life of me find any adverts, so was wondering if the Edge's collective memory could help me out.
There are two adverts that I remember (although I'm sure there are more). One I think was a taco advert that had two side by side jugglers preparing a taco or burrito or something like that. The other I think was a kitchen advert (I vaguely remember the advert focusing on kitchens that "just work"). They both aired in the UK a few years ago, but I can't recall exactly when.
Any information on these two adverts or any others that you know of would be appreciated.
How about we start with these:
Kati Yla-Hokkala (In a kitchen but almost certainly not the one you are thinking of. I think I know the one you mean but can't find it right now.)
https://vimeo.com/114393319
Sam Veale
https://youtu.be/LOYTQKoJ1N8
Ivan Pecel
https://youtu.be/KhGcAbEt20U
Didn't Rod Laver do an advert for Famous Grouse Whiskey or somesuch?
Also Scott Cain wrote an article for the ezine on more Amercan commercials.
lukeburrage - - Наверх #
Also Gandini Juggling:
https://youtu.be/Fy7T_Sy6mbk
"Annette des Forges TV Advert Werbespot mit Jonglage von event-jongleure" https://youtu.be/zTRyvTEtRDQ [Dutch]
"OBI Hammer-Werbung" MasterFX2000 https://youtu.be/AXDL369WNL4 . It also featured in the news under topic "virale Werbung" ("viral commercials \ advertising"?): https://youtu.be/MVqgddJ0CpY?start=137
I also remember a numbers juggler (clubs and-or balls), Hochsteiner?, Dietz?, in sort of an aikido gown in totale view on a pedestal with white background in a clip for a car(?) in german tv.
Can't tell what's faked or not, or original or free launched or not.
Hmm, lots of ads I haven't seen before.
Interesting what the advertisers feel need to be faked vs the real stuff they keep. Particularly the 13 club back to back passing in the video with Owen & Sean. I think your average muggle would not be able to distinguish between the faked pattern & what Owen & Sean are capable of doing in real life.
Daniel Simu - - Наверх #
https://youtu.be/lThW32FlmDo
https://youtu.be/vjubPjHqSng
https://youtu.be/qEFFT5yyWC0
https://youtu.be/Se1wIOqhrao
And my favorite:
https://youtu.be/58-9Ae9cvDI
Mike Moore - - Наверх #
Joggling, from the marathon joggling record holder Michal Kapral:
https://youtu.be/YRuU-GeTZ6g
Do you think it would be better to serve a dish of weak (think: mild) plus strong (or: spicy) cookies (instead one sort only) ?
You could then like siteswap them by eating two spicy ones, have a sip on your tea, then one only mild one ( sstm ) or vice versa ( mmts ) .. innumerous combinations would be possible ..
Little Paul - - Наверх #
I think your suggested biscuit to tea ratio is all wrong, also there's no need to invent new notation.
Any 3 ball Siteswap can be used to describe a sequence of tea drinking/biscuit eating events. Say you have 2 biscuits and one cup of tea, that's 3 objects. Instead of describing "throws" have the manipulation events be "bite" or "sip" (as appropriate) and it works out.
For example, 3 would be: biscuit1, biscuit2, tea (repeat)
51 would be: biscuit1, biscuit2, biscuit2, tea, tea, biscuit1 (repeat)
I'll leave 441, 531 and some others for you to work out.
Little Paul - - Наверх #
Any 3 ball Siteswap can be used to describe a sequence of tea drinking/biscuit eating events
Obviously, I meant to say "any siteswap"
Although multiplex or sync siteswaps might get messy.
Daniel Simu - - Наверх #
"Although multiplex or sync siteswaps might get messy."
I'm okay with biscuits and tea in my mouth at the same time!
Bloody site swap notation. That's one of the reasons I ran away. We are not all total nerdy geeks you know. Some of us are filthy hippies who think they are really funny but everyone else is too cool to admit it.
Hey, don't blame! :-O .. I couldn't k n o w that.
So, just try wrappin' a TIE 'round yer neck .. 't'll instantly make U feel like a banker or broker or Bondjamesbond or "the man" or jus' like a boring clerk. .. But guess 't is maybe okay to be a hippie, i think, dunno, maybe, after all. (So, A'll treat you as right that and won't nerd you anymore ;o]=) )
S'swap is just a walking juggler seen from bird's eye. The ball lands [digits =steps] later .. that's all to it.
Sorry Wiz, I forgot you were German and carry the no sense of humour gene. I was not trying to offend, honest.
°W O U O h o h o h o h o o o a h° .. that's so .. so .. so m e a n. profoundly. bottomless.
(But thanks for mistakin' me for a native. That was a very nice hidden compliment of yours.)
.. jus' wish, your energy would go .. merge .. transpose .. would went into juggling or clowning .. or whatever you do when active, i mean .. instead waisting precious lifetime on ranting in disguise of a troll right.
Howgh.
You may have forgotten me but I was the one who supported you on your appalling posting style back in the poor Ethan thread,
Oh well..... not as memorable as I think I am.
Mike Moore - - Наверх #
> °W O U O h o h o h o h o o o a h° .. that's so .. so .. so m e a n. profoundly. bottomless.
That's among my favourite things I've ever read on this site. I can't stop laughing!
Serious? - I normally know you as serious.
But is it irony? - Can't be all sure.
So I'll just take it as is, plainly spoken.
However .. it was my humour at stake. And I know for sure he was still there that morning at the office. Yet came late and slammed a health insurance vouch onto my desk. Murmured something of ripped ``diaphragm´´, his laughing muscles overstressed the day before, or something. Can't rely on that bunch a rascals anymore these days. His doctor suggested hot water bottles and avoid any fun the next days, else he sould see him again and he'd get a funkiller injection. Why, so we just had to work without him that day. :o|
No Mikes not serious, he enjoys a good laugh. The forum is too serious these days, that's all.
You make me feel so useless and empty. How do you do that? .. And .. for christ's sake .. W H Y ? A neve' did ye no harm, did 'e?
Well then again, thankyou, Monte, my big sustainer in the most funny Ethan thread sometimes in dim and distant past, --> "feeling empty" is jus' great for some serious nerdy juggling. (Not that hippie-"watch how good I can flow, did you like it, do you want to talk about it, what did it do with you"-stuff)
Flow? You trying to trigger a 10 page rant out of me now? Fetch me the rope, there's room enough on the lamp posts next to the clowns for the flow artists.
Mike Moore - - Наверх #
I was being truthful. I really enjoy seeing honest emotions, happy, sad, etc. (at least if they're not permanently destructive).
Children losing an ice cream scoop from a cone, someone being gifted a pet they've always wanted, that silly Chewbacca Mom video, these are things I like. When I read your message, it felt like I knew exactly how you were feeling. So I liked it.
I also got a good laugh out of it. Coming back to this, I still do!
Leeds Convention 2016
Having spent the night at Jenni & Jon's, I got up on the morning of Leeds Convention at 8.45 to realise I was the only one awake - slightly concerning given Jon was meant to be helping out. After a shower, breakfast and some poor excuse about alarms not going off, we were on our way and arrived at the venue around 10.30.
The new entrance was easy to reach with clear signposts, and the familiar hall was set up and in action. The hall was a little chilly for most of the day, and it took a good hour of juggling to start to feel comfortable. Not much can be done with a hall that size, just some honest feedback.
After my warm up juggling (no pun intended), I found myself in back to back workshops from 12 'til 3. First up was a balloon swallow workshop from Lawrence Turner. I was disappointed to find myself the only attendee, especially as Lawrence had prepared a great workshop and really taught the trick well. More people should learn unusual tricks like this, especially as it puts a lot of focus on the performance with the method being relatively straightforward.
Next, it was my turn to run my 5 balls workshop. A half dozen or so keen jugglers stuck with me for the whole hour, learning the building blocks that lead to the 5 ball cascade. Always a fun one to run, and thanks to all that attended - I hope it helped.
Then I headed to the tea room for a magic workshop. Unfortunately, the workshop leader didn't make it to the convention, but the few of us there managed a bit of an impromptu skill share. I taught a couple of my favourite coin and card tricks which I hope people could take away and use.
After a little more juggling in the hall (mainly 5 clubs as I'm amazed how well that's kept up despite not getting out to juggle so much this year) it was time for the games. Ross kept things rolling, though occasionally was difficult to hear due to the acoustics of the hall. I only took part in the 5 ball endurance, was pretty happy to come 5th after collecting when they started lots of kneeling challenges (I struggle to get back up again!).
With just the show to come, a group of Loughborough Fever people and myself took the chance to head for dinner - and where else could we go but the Wetherby Whaler? Superb fish and chips, excellent décor (loads of chandeliers) and a brilliant piano man playing some of the best showtunes and old time hits - just my kind of entertainment!
With half an hour to go before the show, we headed back and took our seats. The seating was nicely laid out this year, with angled sections at either side which were more prominent than previous years. Reminded me of the west end theatres I often visit - was good to see and I think gave better sight lines to more people.
The show kicked off with Alistair Leitch taking to the stage as compère (though I'm not sure how many others knew his name as he didn't introduce himself at the top of the show - a pet peeve of mine). Throughout the show though, Alistair did his job effectively and kept things rolling at a good pace. Whilst it might have been nice to see a little more from him in the segments between acts, for what I understand was his first go at compering I think he did a solid job.
First half featured three acts and felt a little short (as a rule, it's often better to make the first half slightly longer than the second). Kathrin Pancakes opened with her latest ring juggling piece - nice mixture of artistic choreography and technically demanding juggling skill. She was a little too droppy for my liking, especially in the 5 and 6 ring segments, I've seen her do better. Graham Milligan came next with a slick, stylish and suitably technical diabolo act - I loved it. To close the first half, we were introduced to "The Sorceror's Apprentice" and were treated with an excellent piece of theatricality. Tiff & Mike worked wonderfully together to produce a clear plot for some very demanding ball spinning tricks. My only slight bug bear was the long break in the middle of the routine whilst Mike attempted the 3 ball stack. Pausing the music and breaking character to speak to the audience was a shame as up until that point I was hooked. I appreciate he needed to hit the trick for the storyline, I think it just took a few too many attempts. Still, a thoroughly enjoyable act overall!
After the interval and raffle, we were treated to another four acts. Opening was John & Steph with a glow partner poi routine. Though nothing new or innovative, it looked professional and was very slick with top marks for good looking costumes. Brooke & Becky followed with what many considered to be the highlight of the show. A highly technical club passing routine with great tricks, alongside their characters as amusing robots which they never broke away from. Great choice of background audio too with voiceover that matched the actions of the routine - I loved this act. Steve the Magic Ball Man was up next and I thought was excellent. A really great contact juggler with a nice repertoire and well thought out routine - look forward to seeing him again in the future. Finally, to close the show was Laura Ivers, flown over from Ireland, with her hoop routine. Some great technical skill and a mixture of techniques used to create an engaging act, thoroughly enjoyable and I hope to see her perform again in future.
After wrapping up at the convention site, we all headed back to Jenni & Jon's for the night.When it got to midnight and six of us were playing with tape measures to roll a Malteser from the stairs, across the room and into my open mouth we knew it was time for bed!
All in all, I had a great day. Thank you so much to everyone that made it happen, and please be assured any comments or criticisms in this review are far outweighed by the joy this event brings me every year. Thank you!
I also went to this convention and would like to add a few thoughts about it.
Myself and my son Peter took the 3 hour car journey to Leeds and this made me appreciate the people who travel that sort of distance to go to the Milton Keynes Convention. It was fairly good weather on the way up but got worse as we approached Leeds itself and by the time we had reached the convention site it was fairly grim. Not actually raining when we got out of the car but looking like it would do and fairly cold. That the venue is a large sports hall meant it took quite a while to feel warm and I had to do some juggling to achieve this. Something I generally avoid at conventions.
Most of the workshops were beginners this or that which didn't really appeal, so the only one I attended was Jon Peat talking about performing. Jon approaches acts in a slightly different way to myself (his acts tend to be set to particular music, mine tend to have no music or not choreographed to the music) so I knew that his way of looking at performing would be different and therefore interesting. It was very well prepared, with Jon having his laptop set up so that he could refer to his notes and also play music to make a point when needed. Many of those attending were performers who wanted to chip in but Jon was able to keep to his path without over running more than a few minutes. I did think it was a shame that there wasn't a room other than the tea room (which also doubled as a board games room) which could be used for discussion type workshops like this (and also similarly non-energetic workshops e.g. magic, balloons etc.).
After the workshop I met back up with my son and after lunch we decided to play games. We ended up playing OK, Jaipur, Star Fluxx (which I had to buy from Lazy Juggler in order to play this with someone who wanted to try new games suitable for a 10 year old) and Guillotine. They were all fun in different ways, I didn't win any of them.
We then collected our things from the hall and went for food, which turned out to be from Subway as I gave my son the choice.
We were in the hall for the show at 7pm and then had to wait for 30 mins for it to start. This delay seemed unnecessary.
The first half Mark describes very well in his review above. I would add that the compere was also very rushed when he announced the names of the acts so that half the time I didn't know their name and therefore am glad that Mark did such a great job of listing them. With the Tiff and Mike act, that the whole routine hinged around one trick which took about 10 minutes and 30 attempts or so to land made it so much less pleasing than it would have been if that one trick could have been landed quickly.
There were a few things that I would add to the second half acts. Mostly these thoughts came because of the workshop earlier in the day.
John and Steph, partner poi: Nice slick act, used glow poi with John having blue and Steph using pink. I did wonder if the choice of colours was something other than an aesthetic one.
Brook and Becky, club passing: This was my show highlight. Good technical skills but the presentation and humour were what made it. That they kept the characters all the way through the act and even to the final curtain showed how much they had thought about the act.
Steve the Magic Ball Man, contact juggling: This act was technically very competent but left me flat. Contact juggling is meant to mesmerise and amaze. I spent half of Steves act thinking about how he moved his feet and how difficult some of his tricks were.
Laura, hula hoop: Another strong technical act, the one hoop stuff was particularly good. For me I'd like Laura to have had a more defined character in her act. In general she looked very solemn as she performed (enhanced by her wearing an all black outfit). However when something went wrong you good see that there was a warm personality underneath and perhaps that could have come more to the fore.
My only other comment was that they ran out of doughnuts so I had to buy some myself, not a tragedy.
Nigel
Leeds Juggling Convention
Managed to get a lift to harbour from a friendly ex-policeman with a most curious sense of humour. The sea was not too choppy and I then walked to railway station, station master was most apologetic about price of train tickets, but I assured him I didn't take it personally and certainly didn't blame him. The ticket collector on train was less chatty, and had to google from her phone to answer some of my train questions, the Traincare Presentation Team were no more knowledgeable but much friendlier. There was space for 3 bicycles and two wheelchairs, but I had neglected to bring either of these with me. I was amused that all the lasses getting on at Paisley had paisley-patterned leggings, perhaps such legwear is obligatory in that town?
Glasgow's winter lights made the streets appear a little sparkly, rather than just cold and wet; though they were let down by the ones in George Square which sadly looked a little christmassy. It was reassuring to see the Wellington statue in Glasgow wears a traffic cone just like the one in Edinburgh. The recycling bins in Glasgow Queens Street were optimistically labelled as half-full, though confusingly the milepost indicated that Platform 2 was 14 miles from Glasgow. There were a pair of lasses from Tracsis conducting a survey on the train but the questions left little room for interesting answers and the train tannoy regularly reminded of the mantra “See it, Say it, Sorted”
I had twenty minutes to spare between trains at Edinburgh so decided to do a bit of sightseeing, up Princess Street and back down Royal Mile. The 7' penguins on the roof of station are a new addition, and I discovered were fairly securely fenced in. There was a D'arcy Thompson exhibition at the Art Centre. Found another pen at Edinburgh station, with a sparkly pink butterfly which was surprising for the time of year and a quote by Walter Scott "I have rarely if ever found anyone out of whom I could not extract amusement or edification".
Olly and Harry, two Durham students who had skipped classes on Friday to go drinking in Edinburgh, were not daunted in the least by being in the quiet carriage and happily recounted their exploits on ski trips and at college balls this term with volume and gusto. I was anxious to finish reading my book left behind by a foreign student about a Scotsman's travels in Kyrgyzstan, so I could swap it with Jon Peat for another book to read on the way back.
Broke journey in York where I joined my friends for a very nice vegan chili. My sleep was disturbed by a smoke alarm that wouldn't stop, I couldn't isolate power source so managed to smother it with enough clutter to block most of the sound and (after a cursory look for any fire) went back to sleep. It seems there has been a spate of post code inspired graffiti in York, writing post codes on peoples doors in 3' high green spray-paint. The locals seemed to be leave it for a day or two in case they came back to write more address details, before painting over it
Wasn't tempted by the boil-in-the-bag “All Day Vegetarian Breakfast” so I had a very nice bowl of porridge instead.
Then we drove to Leeds, leaving the blue skies and autumnal colours of North Yorkshire to the more wintry climate of West Yorkshire. It wasn't clear if the under-dressed Xmas Vintage Fair lady in Huby was waving frenetically to keep warm or just very eager to greet passing motorists. We saw ten cyclists on the way mostly in the Wharfe Valley.
I arrived, found new entrance, swapped my money for a Rainbow Dash My Little Pony card with a length of wool attached. Passed clubs, drank tea, passed clubs, met jugglers, passed clubs, and ate doughnuts.
Went to a EJC 2019 meeting, which is all looking very promising. The BJC 2016 and EJC 2016 posters were still on the maths classroom wall (used as a tea room by the convention) from last year, someone suggested the posters had helped the school achieve its outstanding Ofsted inspection.
It was nice to see a full workshop timetable, though only the Improvising Passing workshop appealed to me. Unfortunately it was very hard to hear what Brook (who with Becky was leading the workshop) was saying due to the music machine nearby – apparently “twelve-time” can help slow down juggling passing patterns. Went to turn down music, but by time I returned Brook had finished speaking.
Did some more passing and tea drinking. Missed the games as I was too busy passing, but it was nice they didn't totally take over the hall as they do at other conventions.
The toilets had been renovated and no longer had the sign “Jesus is watching over you, please be aware images are being recorded” and the ceiling camera had been covered in toilet paper. There were none of the xmas signs like “Tis the reason for the season”, etc, we had enjoyed seeing in previous years, but being a church school they had made sure whatever direction you looked there would be a crucifix, bible quotation or slogan such as “Mercifully like my father”.
Didn't get my clubs (or my packed lunch out of my bag all day) as once I had put bag down by the wall, it got surrounded and less retrievable, but luckily there are always plenty of clubs at a convention. Tried to swap a sock for some fish, but Mark didn't have fish, so I just gave him the sock.
The food at the Hare and Hounds was quite unremarkable and not even very quick. People came out to find many car's windscreens had frozen up in the time it had taken for them to get their meals.
The show started promptly 30 minutes after the advertised start time, Alistaire was a great compare not spending more time than necessary on stage. The 18” space between rows provided sufficient leg room. And Chocfest flyers strewn over seats made useful projectile material. Sadly the stage at Leeds is only 11” high so any activity below the performers waist height is missed by anyone not in the front two rows.
The first half of the show had ring juggling by Kathrin Pancakes, diaboling by Graham and a very enjoyable ball spinning routine by Matthew Tiffany and Mike Parker to the Dukas's L'apprenti sorcier?, doing some of the tricks I had seen in their balluSpinnus video including attempting a three ball stack. After 25 minutes of first half it was time for interval and raffle featuring the pineapple star prize.
The 14 minutes of raffle gave an opportunity to chat and catch up with people I'd not seen during day, having had my raffle win last year disbelieved, it probably wasn't worth claiming any prizes this year
The second half had partner poi by Jon & Steph, contact juggling by Magicball Steve, hoops by Laura and an amazing club passing routine by Becky and Brook with humour, choreography and dedication to character as well as high skill level – their act was the definite highlight of the show for me, the only weakness was the introduction, but I would love to see it again.
After 30 minutes of second half the performers did their bowing whatevers and the show was over, everyone went outside to see how frozen their windscreens were, before disappearing into the wintry fog.
On the way back, train broke down as well as signalling near Darlington not working, adding another couple of hours to an already long journey.
A wonderful convention, many thanks to all the organisers and everyone who helped make it so special – looking forward to Chocfest in a couple of months time.
High 650 foot above sea level
Low sea level
Crush – the train on the way back where passengers from the two broken trains were squashed into a third train that was still working and then the signals failed
Goal – as a Hullabaloo aluminarté I hoped to volunteer more, but failed to find anything useful to do, as usual wished I could more club passing
Bane – smoke alarms that won't stop
Surprise – dropping in on some old friends on the way back from the convention (well two of them weren't that old) and enjoying a very pleasant cup of tea or two
#LJC2016
My favourite sign of this year was "pray to God during exam season", which seemed rather defeatist.
Thank you to all who attended, we have had really good feedback from the school caretaker.....
"He says that all involved were “pleasant, respectful, self-reliant and were a pleasure to work with.”
Hope to do it again next year
Alice
Helen and I arrived about 11:30, bringing the PA system with us, meaning Alice and Alastair were very glad to see us. Unloaded the speakers and amiplifiers in to the main hall, paid and got passes, then moved coffee things (filter machine, filters, and 750g of coffee grounds) into the tea room. We'd been asked to keep an eye on things here so we popped in frequently during the day - pleased to say it was kept clean and tidy (ish) throughout, so many thanks to you all!
Filter machine was just about working, but needed a thump or two to release the latch for the actual filter. It only gets used at LJC and was very cheap about fifteen years ago, so we'll see how it feels next year. (Helen doesn't take coffee so my daily drink is instead from an Aeropress, a Hario pour-over, or a cafetiére. Or the other cafetiére, the moka pot, or the cold-brew jug. Yes, all this is possibly excessive.) Doughnuts lasted a surprisingly long time, I definitely saw some hiding under the table well after lunchtime.
Spent lots of money at the traders as Hullabaloo were collectively embarrassingly generous at our recent wedding, so we had vouchers for Butterfingers and Lazy Juggler, and have lots of new shiny. Diabolo and handsticks for me, two new hoops for Helen, and several new games including Battle Sheep and Sushi Go!. Didn't play anything except Guillotine with Nigel and Peter though, and chatted a little about MKJC as I didn't manage to visit this year. It was a good game, and Peter has a definite competitive streak.
Lunch at Weatherby Whaler.
Missed virtually all of the games.
Got in the way of the fight night prelims while attempting 7 balls. Couple of very messy qualifies. Meh. Same applied to attempts at 5 clubs. Gave it up and went to drink more coffee.
Mamph and Martin's delightful child was in the tea room! Said hullo and held her for a bit. She tried to eat my hall pass, but didn't complain about having it gently taken away. D'aw, baby.
Tidied away the tea room from 5:30 till 6:20, put things in car, scraped ice off car, went to get pizza. Returned with pizza pretty much at 7 and ate hurriedly. Helen's pizza was missing the promised fresh rocket, bah.
Show ran 7:30 to 8:50 with one interval. Raffle in the interval. I'd bought cake instead of raffle tickets so didn't follow the raffle closely, or at all.
Show: Alastair Leitch (compére). Kathrin Pancakes - three to six rings including some very nice flat backcrosses, 5 ring pancakes, flash of 6 rings to close. Graham Milligan - single diabolo. Grey tweed waitcoast over white shirt, neat and sufficiently theatrical. Lots of neck and body wraps, pirouettes with diabolo both on and off string, close to dropless (one tangle, I think) - very nice. Tiff and Mike Parker closed the first half with a ball spinning act. Sorcerer's apprentice theme, polished presentation, capes and shiny waistcoats. Tiff managed five headbounces and a catch to a stable spin. I think he may be an actual witch. Mike took a large number of attempts at the big finale, as noted by Nigel and Mark above, but I have never seen anyone stick a three ball stack on stage before, even for the few seconds it lasted, so I'm a bit more forgiving! (Tiff was filling in with five balls and an animated hat, so it's not like there was nothing at all for the audience).
Second half: John Godbolt and Steph Hale-Allen in a LED poi routine. Tight and well synchronised interweaving and good use of the whole of stage, including dancing across the stage. A couple of acrobalance poses to finish; nicely done and helped keep interest going. Not sure about the nearly-but-not-quite identical costumes. Brook and Becky - club passing. Comedy robot routine with 4 to 8 clubs and technical passing and takeouts; splendid use of a metal colander. I do hope the tomahawk that hit the colander was planned, it's too good not to keep in! Steve Bullen - contact routine with 1 to 4 acrylics. Almost dropless, very clean isolations, very smooth dynamic moves and clearly a professional and well practised act, I liked it. Laura Ivers - hoops. Little black flapper dress, beaded headband to match, and fantastic embroidered tights. One day it would be nice to see an act in vintage or vintage-effect costume also use vintage music, twenties jazz or thirties big-band, but that was not today. 1 to 5 brilliantly taped hoops in stage uplighting so that persistence-of-vision trails were all over the place. Deserved more applause than it got and I felt there weren't enough applause points - we didn't want to interrupt! One excellent moment when she broke character and mouthed "Yeah!" after a catch, which did get a tonne of applause.
All acts very good on staying in character / in performance mode all the way offstage, and during the bows. This may have something to do with the showrunner, Jon Peat.
Thanks to Jon, Dr Alice, Ross, Alastair, Bryony on the show doors, Emily on tech, Helen, all the volunteers and all the performers. Fun day, fun show, let's do it again next year!
Help, I'm so dizzy! I am in the process of learning multiple tricks with a 360 pirouette involved. But after about 2 or 3 attempts of a trick I become quite dizzy, and start to lose my balance and concentration. Is there any way to overcome this issue? Or is it just practice and getting used to it?
I believe the trick is to delay turning of your head and then whip it around quickly back to the same position. Practice by looking at a particular point and looking back at it after the pirouette with as little time in between as possible.
I'm sure you already know this, but for the sake of clarity (and Googling), dancers call this technique "spotting"
Tried this technique today, at first I felt even more dizzy, I guess it must be because I am even less used to it. I'll keep working on it!
Daniel Simu - - Наверх #
Definitely makes you less dizzy, but also has a high likelyhood of both making you confused and ruining your technique. You need to be able to spin in your natural direction without having to hesitate... I've worked on both sides, I regret it.
Another club bites the dust
It seems almost certain now that the University of Liverpool Circus Society will be no more at the end of this academic year. Despite having a committed core of non-student members, we will not have the three student members required to form the committee, as required by the university.
We've looked at getting peoples housemates etc. to sign the paperwork, but ultimately a student will need to be a point of contact with the university, and the only student member we will have next year doesn't fell that they will have the time to commit to running the society.
The club is succeeded by a few informal meetups and a local firespinning troupe, but the loss of the only regular juggling club is a shame for the city. The last meeting of the club will be on the 2nd June in the dance studio of the Guild of Students at 8PM.
That sounds very much like how the club was hanging on to life about ten years ago! We'd regularly go through the 'shit, who knows a student?' rigmarole until it finally just couldn't keep going. Then it came back when Jubb and a few others brought it back unwittingly almost identical to its old form!
It was always so hard to recruit, especially when newbies spotted the hungry look in the eyes of the people who wanted to lump all the guild related stuff on them! Here's hoping it'll rise from the ashes again!
One other thing: I'm pretty sure that a bank account and some kit went AWOL last time the club died. Maybe make sure stuff like that is suitably emptied!
I've already brought this up, but the committee are apparently much more honest than I am.
This is sad news, I have heard of a few other student clubs in the same situation this year. Is there an affordable community venue outwith the university that the non-students could base the club at instead? It wouldn't be as cheap, but would be cheaper than having to go to Northwich for a regular indoor juggle.
Another possibility might be for the other members to minimise the work the student member has to do, but that might only be a short term solution.
We've got outdoor juggling throughout the summer, so hopefully we can sort out something regular.
You would of course be very welcome at Northwich! The more people who come, the cheaper it gets. Sadly we can do nothing about the fuel cost or travel time but we make a cracking brew! Check in on the Northwich Juggling Club page for the occasional closure.
Richard Loxley - - Наверх #
Something similar happened to the Bristol University circus society about 15 years ago.
We coped by getting a student who used to come to the club to sign the paperwork and be the official committee member, on condition that we would actually do all the work for him.
We then ran the stall at freshers fair, and in fact signed up a record number of new members (over 100 I seem to remember). We were very motivated, very outgoing, and had some good club passers demonstrating next to our stall.
Then for the first term we ran beginners workshops for different props every week, timetabled in advance. (We'd handed out the timetable at freshers fair so members saw what they were getting for their money.) That got about 30 people attending each week. At the end of the term we had a core of 8 or 10 people who'd been every week, and we then approached them to see if any wanted to be committee members going forward. Thankfully a couple said yes, and the club survived :-)
Hey all,
I'm Liam, a friendly unicyclist/juggler/knife-thrower/tinkerer... I was once a proper member of Loughborough's circus society called Fever, and now try to help them out where I can.
I've been to many a convention over the years, but for those who still aren't sure, I'm the one who drives a half-full minibus of Feverites to various juggling conventions and am often game for helping out.
I've also been known for encouraging people to try the unicycle, even those who have put it off for the many years they've been part of the community.
Hopefully, the minibus (named Bessie) will be back to full health in time for BJC this year, where it will cart 4 non-Fever people, and 8 members of Fever.
Ta
Little Paul - - Наверх #
Hi Liam, welcome aboard!
As a diver of a knackered old minibus (well, it was a minibus until I got my hands on it, ripped out all the seats and fitted a bed/kitchen) I can sympathise about the challenges an unhealthy minibus faces :)
Indeed, I'm so worried about my bus (named BOV) that I'm not even going to attempt to drive it Bristol->Perth... we've rented a replacement
Little Paul - - Наверх #
It's more of a backronym... The letters appear on the number plate, but it now stands for Buggered Old Van
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I've just read David Cains most recent article http://ezine.juggle.org/2016/01/14/cups-and-spoons/
It reminded me that I once described this trick to Ewano (at the Liverpool convention in 2004) using the illustrations in "manipulative miscellanea" (by Reg Bacon), he misunderstood my description and went off and learnt what he thought I had described.
The result was an ungimicked version of the trick which I don't think I've ever seen anyone else do.
I think the only video of him doing it is at about 21 minutes in to this video, shot at that same convention.
http://juggling.tv/4704
Just thought I'd mention it - does anyone else do it without gluing the cup(s) to the board?
Oh, and while on the subject of the ezine - it's nice to see that Steve Rawlings got interviewed for the podcast.
Little Paul - - Наверх #
by 21 minutes, I appear to mean 23 mins 25 seconds.
I think I was looking at the time on my phone, not the how far through the video I'd paused it.
Cedric Lackpot - - Наверх #
Somewhere in the deep and dark recesses of my mind I seem to remember dear old Ewano turning up somewhere or other - Liverpool con perhaps? - with a tray, four cups, and four spoons. I tried it; I failed; I gave up.
I'm looking forward to the next Broxford, in the hope that Ewan and Beccy will stop by again.
Evening Paul,
I've been meaning to get in touch, and in fact have tried calling you a few times - but the lines in Bristol all seem to be busy. I remember spending a fair amount of time on that trick, to the point my back became painful..
I also worked on a further variant with tray, cup, spoon and dice (sugar in your tea sir?) - which I managed to get once in all my time practising it. I also tried a few times with a teabag, but the difference in mass to drag ratio was so large that in order to get enough height in on the teabag, the spoon was launched about 5 feet in the air.
While helping Mikey with his timing for the hat routine he performed at that convention, I noticed the similarities between some hat and tray manipulation moves I was also playing with at the time. I think the attempt to run through Mikeys hat routine with my tray was probably the result of a drunken conversation with him at the Everyman..
I remember running a workshop at a BJC (Brighton maybe) on tray spinning and manipulation, where I demoed a a lot of similarities between tray and hat manipulations. I finished it with an attempt at the tray, cup and spoon trick - having lowered everyone’s expectations - and got it first time. I quickly put everything away and acted like it was as I'd planned. Perhaps this is the workshop Jay remembers?
I also remember going to maybe a Birmingham convention and there was a guy who could do the trick there. I suspect it was after the BJC I'd run the workshop at. There was also a guy with a standard 5 attached cups tray there and we set about trying to line the spoons up in a 90 degree orientation lengthways down the tray so that each spoon had to do an extra half turn before it landed in it's designated cup. I think I managed to get three out of the five to land by the end of the day.
Apparently tonight - the number I've dialled has not been recognised. Exchange out of action?
Little Paul - - Наверх #
I've been meaning to get in touch with you too, but I tend to remember to try and phone you at thoroughly unsociable hours of the day!
All lines to Bristol are engaged because I had to move my phone exchange out of the lounge to redecorate. I checked it this morning and it seems to have developed a fault in the process which I didn't spot (because it's now in a room I don't go in all that often, so I didn't see the alarm lamp) and has now managed to run its batteries into the floor.
In addition to that fault, sipgate decided to stop talking to me some time over the weekend - which is why you got the number not recognised message. It also means that the siteswaphone is offline!
So that sounds like my evening taken care of tonight then.
There is a 90% chance I'll be at chocfest on Saturday[1], if you're around then I'll see you there - if not I'll try and call you from a filthy modern phone.
I want to talk to you about lighting wood burners upside down...
[1] which reminds me, what do people do about accommodation these days? It's been so long since I've been to a CF that I'm not sure if people aim for crash space or have grown up and now get hotel rooms ;)
"I want to talk to you about lighting wood burners upside down..."
I'm intrigued as to what part you intend to be upside down.
Little Paul - - Наверх #
The fire.
What are some nice club passing patterns suitable for larger numbers (5-8 people)?
This is a competition thread which ran from 16th Dec 2015 to 15th Jan 2016. View results.
I'd guess Mats1 was going for a survey.
We don't have a survey option!
I'm still voting for number 6 though.
Little Paul - - Наверх #
But 6 isn't even prime!
I think, you're in an old or other competition type mode
and were going for answers like:
1. this pattern for 5 jugglers
2. other or same pattern for 6 jugglers
3. pattern for 7 jugglers
4. pattern for 8 jugglers
.. then people vote for answers and find patterns most voted for.
Maybe radio button "Most votes wins" does that (instead "Poll"), but I haven't used that yet.
But you might then be able to vote for the whole set of proposed patterns (5-8 jugglers) only, not distinct patterns for different numbers of jugglers.
Daniel Simu - - Наверх #
I'd say 6!
Cedric Lackpot - - Наверх #
Agreed.
I vote 5, the more people you have in a passing pattern the more time you spend getting started and not actually juggling/passing.
Have you checked out the Madison book for multi-person passing patterns, there are also a few 5 and 6 person patterns on Aidan's website
This poll has now ended. The results are:
There seems to be a superfluous line break there, Marvin. Tsk.
Oh, and could you stir this coffee for me, please?
Daniel Simu - - Наверх #
Surprisingly there were much more votes on this poll than the othe one...
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Daniel Simu - - Наверх #
Whaaahaaa, that is super clever and well done!
A clever idea, but many of the letters are completely unrecognisable. How is ||| anything like E? I'd be interested to see how they actually came up with the letters — I have a feeling many could be improved, although I don't doubt it's no easy thing to do.
Brook Roberts - - Наверх #
Some of us tried to actually do this for a birthday video for Lewis - https://youtu.be/z7YxYN_1Kc8?start=42
I wondered what we did...to our shame I'm not sure our idea for E was better!
To be fair, we did actually attempt to juggle them, with very little practise.
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